*Most investors have it completely wrong.*
Their portfolios run on theory, hope, and speculation—an educated gamble (at best) that they pray will pay off.
What if there was a way to *ensure your hard-earned capital was put to good use, grew stably, and had such a definitive upside* that it’s almost impossible to lose? There’s only one way to do it, and every investor can: *Add value.*
We’ve done it—and continue to do it—on almost every asset we own, creating nearly unbelievable returns and *increasing property values by many multiples* by doing what most won’t—prioritizing the value we put in, not the value we take out.
In this episode, I’m walking through the second pillar of the Sunrise C.A.P.I.T.A.L. strategy, sharing real-world examples of how we *created tens of millions in value from simple, tiny, incremental changes*. Don’t take my word for it. Buffett’s examples are showcased, too—the billion-dollar “boring” businesses everyone missed, but did one thing right—always added value.
If you can learn to truly add value, you can control your destiny and build a legacy in any market.
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How to Make a Few Billion Dollars
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Chapters:
00:00 Intro
01:17 The Most Powerful Force for Wealth
03:32 Don’t Trust “Earnings”
06:01 Most Investors Are Completely Wrong
09:51 The Cash Flow “Riddle”
14:13 Your Greatest Weapon
17:33 Real Life Example
24:52 This Kills Investors
26:38 Cash Flow ALWAYS Comes First
Episode Transcript
0:00 – Most investors think that returns come from being right about the market, but Warren Buffett knows better
0:05 – Returns come from control
0:07 – Not prediction if your investment outcome depends on the whims of Mr. Market waking up in a good mood
0:12 – Then you’re speculating but if you can add value
0:15 – operationally systematically
0:17 – Relentlessly then you’re investing today
0:20 – We’re talking about the most misunderstood letter in the sunrise capital strategy and that’s a add value because great investors
0:26 – They don’t wait for value to appear. They manufacture it value creation compounds quietly
0:33 – Unglammerously and violently into a gigantic snowball over time
0:37 – So let me define what creating value is how Warren Buffett has historically done it and how we do it today at the end of the episode
0:44 – We’re gonna unveil our three-leather framework on how we drive value into all of our acquisitions
0:50 – My name is Brian Speer. This is the Sage Investor podcast
0:54 – We try to help as many people as possible generate cash flow and build legacy wealth and a tax-efficient manner
0:59 – That’s what I’m trying to do for my family
1:00 – We’re gonna help out as many people as we can do just that over time and the first thing that I really want to dig into in terms of adding value
1:05 – Is the idea and the concept that adding value does not just mean price appreciation
1:10 – It doesn’t mean if you were gonna buy a stock for a hundred dollars and the the stock goes up to a hundred and fifty dollars that any real
1:15 – Material value has been added yes the price has changed but price is what you pay and value is what you get
1:22 – There are a lot of different stocks a lot of different businesses out there that shade trade
1:25 – flippantly based on the whims of Mr. Mr. Market
1:28 – But it really doesn’t actually provide the true intrinsic value of the asset when you’re investing capital and when you’re running a business
1:37 – What you you should be really trying to focus on is real true value i.e. Enterprise Improvement
1:43 – So from Warren Buffett’s perspective he’s a capital allocator and he’s looking to allocate capital into businesses into human beings
1:50 – That are managing businesses that are focused on enterprise improvement that are focused on adding value in the business
1:58 – Um, and what that means is just finding a way to increase cash flows
2:02 – Over time and what that does is actually legitimately creates real value real value creation comes from compounding
2:10 – Operational excellence day after day week after week month after month year after year
2:14 – It’s not a one-time event. It is an idea. It’s a philosophy
2:18 – It’s a thought process and it takes time to ultimately drive real value in the business
2:23 – It’s the idea and the concept of widening the moat
2:27 – So in a nutshell the individual that’s running the business should be focused on trying to drive value on a day-to-day basis
2:32 – Increase revenue decrease expenses largely be a demon on expenses cost over time
2:38 – In the effort of trying to drive enterprise value the idea and the concept really is associated with Jim Collins wrote his great book
2:45 – Called Good to Great and the idea is
2:47 – Many good companies ultimately unfortunately fail and do times but a handful of them
2:52 – Move from good to great. Why do some businesses ultimately make the leap from good to great and inside of that book
2:59 – Exceptionally renowned author Jim Collins walks through the process of understanding your
3:04 – Core competencies
3:06 – Understanding your hedgehog model and then creating a flywheel
3:10 – So in your business you need to understand what you’re exceptionally good at where you can be the best in the world at
3:16 – Continue to do that day after day week after week month after month year after year that becomes your hedgehog
3:21 – Where you become exceptionally world-class at one thing
3:25 – So you can continue to widen the moat
3:27 – i.e. your core competencies which creates an exceptional flywheel effect over long periods of time
3:32 – The idea of the the concept of the flywheel is that if you would envision just a massive gear in your living room
3:39 – Horizontally laid out and let’s say it’s a one-ton gear
3:42 – It’s enormous takes up the entirety of the living room
3:45 – If you’re going to individually go up to that gear and look to try to move it look to try to push it
3:49 – Look to try to get some momentum
3:51 – It would be exceptionally difficult to get any momentum in any way shape or form
3:54 – But
3:55 – Slowly applying all of your pressure applying all of your effort you’re able to slowly get that
4:00 – Flywheel to budge and ever so subtly
4:03 – And over time what happens is as you gain a little bit more momentum by continuing to apply that pressure
4:09 – That flywheel continues to move a little bit faster
4:13 – And if you continue to do that right and you continue to push forward
4:15 – Eventually the momentum created by that flywheel is self-sustaining and get so unbelievably fast
4:23 – That it would be very difficult to slow it down once you continue to get that flywheel rolling
4:27 – But in business what you’re trying to find is an operator and individual who’s running the business
4:32 – Understands the concept of the flywheel and is obsessed with finding a way to continue to widen the mode because if you’re
4:39 – Implementing your hedgehog philosophy. You’re you’re continuing to widen your mode by virtue of
4:45 – Dominating in a flywheel scenario
4:47 – What’s your you’re doing is adding massive amounts of value?
4:51 – You’re really implementing the legitimate value creation and increasing your enterprise value of your organization
4:57 – I’d say the intrinsic value of your company
5:00 – So the real question is how do you get that flywheel spinning exceptionally quickly?
5:04 – What I’d like to tie in is Verne Harnish Verne Harnish is another exceptional
5:07 – author phenomenal entrepreneur
5:09 – I’m fortunate to be a member of both EO YPO strategic coach a lot of these amazing entrepreneurial
5:15 – groups Verne Harnish’s book scaling up he goes on to try to to share
5:21 – How to implement this idea and this concept of this flywheel philosophy in your individual business
5:27 – How do you actually add value over time? And what he basically suggests is that you have to get obviously very
5:33 – Extremely clear as an operator on what you’re good at what you’re trying to achieve set a big vision in the future
5:38 – but then go into
5:41 – Your business and find an exorbitant amount of ways a myriad of ways to make tiny incremental improvements
5:49 – And again Warren Buffett would convey that adding value is not one event
5:53 – It is the idea and the concept of all these tiny
5:56 – Incremental sometimes imperceptible improvements over extremely long periods of time that ends up
6:01 – compounding into something more significant in material and Verne Harnish goes on to explain and scaling up how to go about doing this
6:08 – In a nutshell everyone in the organization has to understand what you’re trying to achieve
6:13 – You have to set a vision with clarity on who you are where you’re at where you’re going what you’re trying to achieve
6:18 – and then find a way
6:20 – To have everyone in the organization
6:23 – Understand that what they do on a day-to-day basis
6:26 – materially impacts the long-term goal and the long-term trajectory of the business so far as to say
6:33 – Bern states you need to have one KPI one individual number that everyone inside of the entirety of the organization
6:38 – Has that they’re accountable for knocking out on a day-to-day basis also tie that one individual KPI
6:46 – To something much more specific to an actual line on the P&L statement or an actual line on the balance sheet and in this way
6:55 – That individual inside of your organization
6:58 – Has a material impact understands logically that their work on a day-to-day basis has a materially impact on the long-term enterprise value of the organization
7:07 – And if you can do that and ultimately rally the troops all pointing in one direction for the betterment of the organization
7:13 – And they take tiny little incremental improvements on a day-to-day basis. We’re talking about
7:18 – 1% better if you can simply have everyone in your organization
7:22 – Get 1% better in their role on an ongoing basis focus on these tiny incremental improvements
7:28 – What happens is you create this massive compound effect over very long periods of time and Jeff Bezos is a good job of kind of explaining this concept
7:37 – He actually worked directly with Jim Collins is kind of a famous case study
7:40 – The Amazon flywheel was literally written on the back of a napkin when Jeff Bezos sat down with Jim Collins way back in like
7:47 – 2000 and they conceptualized what should the flywheel for Amazon be and it’s a great way to kind of exemplify
7:55 – How you can add value which ultimately creates massive amounts of enterprise value over long periods of time
8:01 – The Amazon flywheel is very simple what he’s been trying to do and Jeff Bezos has a quote verbatim stating
8:06 – We’re internally driven to improve our services
8:10 – We lower prices and increase value for our customers before we have to so he’s relentlessly focused on
8:19 – Items that he knows over long periods of time are going to drive value for the enterprise and so you know many times
8:24 – He he gets asked questions of what’s going to happen over the next you know 10 years
8:27 – What do you think the next big investment is going to be the next technology etc
8:30 – What’s going to happen in 10 years and he says you know what that’s a good question
8:33 – What you know a question that nobody ever asks me is what is not going to change over the course of the next 10 years
8:40 – Because if I know something that is not going to change over the next 10 years then I can build a real business
8:46 – Around that and from my perspective in the our crazy world of mobile home parks, right?
8:50 – I know without fail that people are still going to want affordable housing in a decade
8:56 – You can build a real business behind that and from Jeff Bezos perspective
8:59 – He goes, you know, I look out 10 years. I can never in a in a million years
9:03 – Imagine a scenario where when somebody buys something offline that they don’t want it at their door faster quicker with better service
9:12 – I also in a million years could never imagine a scenario when when somebody buys something offline that they wouldn’t want it cheaper
9:18 – So his entire philosophy is focused on trying to improve the customer experience again get the packages to you as quick as possible
9:27 – You guys now have experienced it right you’ve felt this where you buy something off of your phone through the Amazon app
9:32 – It shows up within six hours that is exceptional customer service
9:36 – What what what does this mean? How does this impact the flywheel when you have an exceptional customer experience that brings more traffic
9:42 – You’re going to get more referrals through word of mouth and because you’re getting more people to your site
9:47 – You’re going to have more sellers more individuals are going to want to show up and share and sell more products on your website
9:53 – That’s what happened Amazon became the everything store everybody wanted to sell everything there
9:57 – And so the selection
9:59 – Increases tremendously when the selection increases tremendously the customer experiences even better
10:04 – And that’s the flywheel that ultimately occurs which allows for tremendous growth and when the growth occurs
10:10 – A yet another secondary style of flywheel occurs when the company is growing
10:15 – They have a much lower cost structure they can provide all these services to the customer at a cheaper rate
10:21 – So if you’re growing you have a lower cost structure internally which means you could lower prices
10:26 – Which further improves the customer experience and yet another massive flywheel continues to turn and that’s how Amazon was able to
10:34 – Increase enterprise value in such a tremendous manner over time
10:37 – Ultimately that is the idea in the concept of adding value where you control your own destiny
10:43 – So when trying to explain the concept of adding value what what we’re really sharing here is that if your entire investment
10:50 – Depends on the whims of mr market waking up in a good mood than that is not an investment that’s speculation
10:56 – Rather you need to be focused on adding value
10:58 – I’m only going to be allocating capital in an investment where I
11:02 – Largely know the outcome where I largely can control the outcome by adding value myself or by allocating capital
11:10 – Two individuals who can control the outcome right?
11:13 – So if you’re just a capital allocator like Warren Buffett
11:15 – He invests in businesses where the operators themselves can control the outcome
11:21 – So it becomes a much higher likelihood and assurance of outcome and that’s what we mean when when we’re stating add value
11:27 – You do so because it massively increases the certainty of outcome in our little world real estate
11:32 – It means sweat equity when we’re buying properties
11:34 – We could do some things that actually pull some levers we have a three lever framework
11:38 – To increase the value of the property shortly after acquiring them and various other businesses have various ways to
11:44 – Ultimately add value really drive enterprise value, but that’s what it means
11:48 – It’s not just relying on price appreciation and the whims of mr market trading businesses at a higher or lower valuation
11:54 – It means you can control your own destiny by increasing the enterprise value by virtue of increasing revenues minimizing expenses and driving long term value over time and
12:05 – Increasing the moat and as you can imagine sometimes the idea and that concept it becomes difficult to actually implement
12:12 – I’ve always can’t I always contemplating widening the moat always trying to think through
12:18 – Real legitimate value creation over long periods of time because sometimes long term value creation and widening the moat
12:26 – It goes against and is it at odds with short-term profitability again
12:31 – Jeff Bezos is always focused on driving down the cost to the end consumer
12:37 – he’s
12:38 – Going short-term profits he could easily charge a little bit more to get that product delivered to your door
12:44 – But he’s trying to continuously drive it down and drive it down and drive it down
12:48 – That is at the detriment of the next quarterly report and the amount of profits
12:53 – He would otherwise be able to generate in the near term but over the very very very long term
12:56 – It’s obviously exceptionally beneficial for the health of the business and the overall enterprise value
13:02 – He’s really driving a real creation here and Warren Buffett has this great quote that when short-term and long-term
13:08 – Conflict widening the moat must take precedence. You need to always be focused on the durable enterprise value
13:15 – The organization over the quarter to quarter optics and people sometimes unfortunately get this wrong
13:20 – At perfect example of this is the idea and a story of blockbuster versus Netflix for those unaware
13:26 – Blockbuster at one point had the ability to buy Netflix for a mere 40 million dollars read hastings the founder and owner of
13:32 – Netflix literally went to blockbuster and said hey guys
13:35 – I’ve built this cool little business here
13:36 – It’s kind of the new way that we’re ultimately trying to drive the same style of product that you guys are creating
13:40 – Board just delivering it to them via mail. We’re delivering these DVDs to mail to the end consumer and blockbuster had no interest
13:47 – And ultimately acquiring that DVD to mail to then consumer business why because they were focused on driving short-term value
13:56 – Due to the fact that there was a corporate raider
13:59 – Carl icon largely overseeing and pulling the strings on blockbuster
14:02 – So he had a heavy stake in blockbuster
14:04 – And he was demanding enforcing the management to drive the profits and hit the number for the quarter
14:10 – If you’re always focused on hitting the number for the most recent quarter
14:14 – It is oftentimes at the detriment of the long-term value of the business
14:18 – So what you if ever press to choose between the short-term and the long-term you have to choose the long-term moat widening the moat or else at some point
14:26 – You’ll end up like blockbuster because obviously Netflix is flew by them
14:30 – And the next time that they want to go potentially purchase them
14:33 – Why would Netflix ever do it? They had already surpassed the value proposition that blockbuster could bring to the table
14:39 – And now blockbuster unfortunately completely completely defunct
14:42 – Charlie Munger has this other quote almost all good businesses engage in pain-today gain tomorrow activities
14:48 – There has to be some level of delayed gratification to really move from good to great over long periods of time
14:54 – And that’s what we’re talking about in terms of sweat equity right when we’re dumping money back into real estate ventures
14:59 – You’re losing a little bit of additional capex out the door today for the benefit of drawing a significantly higher valuation over long periods of time
15:06 – And if you’re not actually adding value what the heck are you doing a bread Jacobs has a great quote bread Jacobs wrote this book
15:12 – How to make a few billion dollars exceptional entrepreneur
15:15 – Multiple phenomenal businesses over long periods of time and he’s got this quote that says if you’re not substantially
15:20 – Improving the companies that you buy
15:23 – You’re just moving capital around and I would pose to you that
15:26 – Unfortunately, there’s been a lot of that in our crazy universe of syndication over the last handful of years
15:30 – There’s a lot of quote unquote professional money razors who don’t actually add value to the investments in any way shape or form
15:38 – They’ve done a good job of creating a little marketing and sales engine
15:40 – And they raise money for syndications. Let’s say they raised 10 million bucks for a multifamily syndication
15:46 – And they go out and buy a multifamily property
15:48 – But then what do they do they literally outsource the operational efficiency and the real legitimate value creation to a third party property management company
15:56 – Who doesn’t care in any way shape or form about the stakeholders and the actual individuals who allocate allocated capital to the business at the outset
16:04 – So there’s there’s there’s a gap in terms of what the investor needs and what the end individual who’s supposed to be accountable for driving value is actually doing
16:14 – On a day-to-day basis and unless you actually tie those two together, you’re not really creating
16:20 – Value you’re not actually investing what I’d say is you’re speculating
16:23 – It works for a period of time if you’re in a capitol compression environment the minute that that
16:27 – clock strikes 12 and you’re no longer in a capitol compression environment
16:31 – You’re in a precarious situation, which is why so many folks have had paused
16:35 – Pause distributions capital calls unfortunately total loss of capital because they haven’t actually been investors focusing on
16:41 – allocating capital to
16:43 – Individuals and businesses who really focus on real value creation warned buffer didn’t
16:48 – When by guessing the future he won by improving what he owned and we’ll go ahead and give you a couple of case stories on how he actually did it a couple of different ways
16:57 – That exemplify businesses that he invested in where they actually control their own destiny the first one’s a beautiful
17:04 – Story about a Mrs. B and Nebraska furniture mark
17:08 – She is a woman who built a kingdom and she couldn’t read or write in
17:12 – 1983 Berkshire acquired about 90% of Nebraska furniture mark for
17:17 – $60 million the founder beautiful lady named Rose Blumpkin was 89 years old at the time
17:23 – She’d started the business in 1937 with five hundred dollars
17:26 – She’s broke broken English couldn’t read her right and had never ever ever taken a day off
17:32 – She’s in there seven days a week all the time trying to drive the operational efficiency of the business
17:37 – Her strategy was brutally simple sell cheap tell the truth and don’t cheat anybody
17:43 – She operated on paper thin margins massive volume and fanatical cost control
17:49 – Her store became the largest furniture store in all of North America and Buffett loved the business
17:55 – Because Mrs. B added value each and every day. She negotiated with suppliers. She worked the floor
18:03 – She obsessed over customer satisfaction. There was no bureaucracy no waste no ego after Berkshire bought the business
18:09 – He didn’t change the thing. He let Mrs. B run it until she was 103 years old when she finally retired
18:16 – The business had grown exponentially lesson here from Buffett is that you need to buy
18:21 – Wonderful businesses run by wonderful people and then just get out of the way adding value doesn’t mean complexity
18:27 – It means relentless focus on customer satisfaction
18:31 – cost efficiency and operational execution great operators
18:36 – Compound value daily through very small discipline decisions and in real estate
18:40 – It means repositioning underperforming assets right raising rents to market implementing the lost to lease recapture cutting expenses improving management
18:48 – In private equity. It means operational improvement not financial engineering, but actually
18:54 – Operating approving operationally and public markets. It’s
18:58 – backing phenomenal owners like Jim Senegal over at Costco or
19:03 – Berkshire backing all their different CEOs and the various myriad of companies that they own value is added through
19:08 – Execution not from a spreadsheet another phenomenal business that
19:13 – exemplifies this from Buffett’s portfolio is bnsf
19:17 – 44 billion dollar bet that he made on boring and 2010 Berkshire acquired bnsf real-way for
19:24 – Billion dollars at the time it was the second largest
19:27 – Transaction that Warren Buffett had ever done real roads notoriously capital intensive
19:32 – Very heavily regulated and also very very boring
19:36 – Critics they question at the time why Buffett would lock up so much capital in a legacy asset
19:43 – But Buffett saw what everybody else missed real roads have
19:47 – Unbeatable economics for moving freight across North America a massive moat nobody could beat it
19:52 – Trucks can’t compete on cost for long haul both goods moving coal moving grain moving oil moving containers right
19:59 – bnsf owns the physical infrastructure 23,000 miles of track and it can’t be replicated the idea is he’s trying to widen the moat
20:08 – bnsf bnsf wasn’t just a toll bridge it required
20:12 – Consistent
20:13 – Reinvestment so Buffett committed to allocating an additional 40 billion dollars in capital over the next decade right
20:21 – So CapEx capital expenditures to improve the track to improve the locomotives to improve the efficiency
20:27 – He added value by making bnsf faster by making it safer by making it more reliable than all of his competitors and by 2024
20:34 – bnsf generated five billion dollars annually in earnings it became birchers most valuable wholly owned business outside of his traditional
20:43 – Insurance companies adding value often requires reinvestment great businesses oftentimes
20:50 – They’re not just cash cows. They’re going to take a little bit of money to reinvest back into the business
20:55 – They’re engines that require fuel
20:57 – But the key is ensuring that the reinvestment that you are making generates returns over and above
21:03 – The capital cost in real estate. That just means repositioning value ed properties
21:08 – And if you spend two million bucks on CapEx on a turnaround
21:11 – You need to increase value by five million bucks right in private equity
21:15 – It means bolt-on acquisitions and operational improvements and in public markets
21:19 – It’s companies like Amazon that reinvest cash flow exceptionally well into other existing businesses that can grow right the best businesses
21:26 – Generate cash and have really high
21:29 – Reinvestment opportunities. So we’ve defined what adding value is we’ve shared kind of how Buffett has done this historically and allocating capital into businesses
21:36 – That add value now. Let’s show you kind of how how we do it how we’ve historically done it over at sunrise capital
21:41 – We’ll give you a few case studies here right? We’ve done it in both parking and mobile home parks over time
21:45 – The first deal we’ll walk through is parking assets called lures parking facilities actually in Phoenix, Arizona
21:51 – We ended up buying this deal for 20.5 million dollars in the second quarter of 2023
21:57 – Okay, so it’s we’ve on and out for just a little more than two years
22:01 – Amazing parking facility, but it was a mixed-use building not only did we buy the parking we also got
22:05 – An 14-story office building as well as some retail units
22:09 – I think there’s six different retail units on the ground floor
22:11 – And this is a name exceptional location location location
22:14 – They literally call it the lures city center because it is in the center of Phoenix literally the epicenter of Phoenix
22:21 – And the entire city of Phoenix was built up around it this building is about a hundred years old
22:27 – It was constructed before Arizona was a state and the rest of the city ended up growing around this
22:32 – So you can imagine the exceptional location location location
22:35 – We ended up buying this property if fell into our lap because it was right after covid during covid
22:40 – Obviously office values plummeted everyone was working from home
22:45 – Folks weren’t eating out in restaurants near as much and for that reason the NOIs historically on this deal
22:51 – Went south, but what was really occurring is people were still parking in the facility over and over and over
22:56 – Why because it’s literally right next to
23:00 – Maricopa County courthouse and the courts, you know
23:02 – They’re still open people are still getting in trouble and they’ve got to go in and actually paid tickets
23:06 – Etc. And the courts got to keep keep rolling in addition to that
23:09 – It’s one block away from the Phoenix ends arena and two blocks away from chase field
23:13 – So there was an exorbitant amount of demand for parking that never really went away
23:18 – 85% of the NOI from that asset derived from parking and again
23:23 – We bought it right after covid. So it was beautiful on that
23:26 – The the office and retail values were suppressed so much that we were able to buy this one for a song
23:31 – We ended up paying 20.5 million dollars for the asset
23:34 – But we actually also received a five million dollar setter seller credit at closing beautiful location location
23:41 – Has been in high demand for over a hundred years. We’ll continue to be in high demand
23:44 – Regenerations and generations to come again Phoenix is the fourth or fifth largest county in the country
23:50 – And it’s the fastest growing city in the country fastest growing state in the country over the last decade
23:54 – Truly phenomenal economics here in addition to that
23:57 – It’s literally right across the street from cityscape
24:00 – In Phoenix where they just dumped a billion dollar renovation
24:02 – And so again all of these factors led us to understand and that the
24:07 – Demand for that respective facility was still going to remain for a long period of time multiple
24:13 – Demand generators for that that asset was owned
24:17 – By a mixed uh by an institutional owner
24:20 – That was focused on office and retail
24:22 – They were not specialists in parking
24:24 – Parking is often viewed as an ancillary line item a given businesses pnl
24:28 – If you really stopped and look at parking as a business in and of itself
24:31 – It becomes extremely compelling
24:33 – But these individuals were primarily focused on office and retail to the detriment of parking
24:38 – But and to that end the office and retail values
24:42 – Truly plummeted and we were able to go in buy it for a song
24:45 – They really didn’t know how to actually run the parking in the most efficient manner
24:49 – What we were able to do in terms of adding value was bring some of our operational efficiency into the marketplace and begin to change
24:57 – Uh begin to charge we would consider to be market rate for parking
25:00 – They had no idea in terms of keeping their finger on the pulse of what market rates were
25:04 – Also they had not instituted what what we always do in in terms of dynamic pricing as you can imagine
25:10 – When you’re right next to the phoenix suns arena and you’re right next to chase field
25:14 – They were charging a flat rate to park in the facility regardless of what was going on
25:18 – Again when the lakers come to town there’s probably more demand for that basketball game in addition chase field
25:23 – They host a bunch of concerts right when Taylor Swift goes in plays
25:26 – She’s probably going to have a little bit more demand than some of the other
25:30 – Folks that end up playing in the in the venue and they had no idea and concept of dynamic event pricing and shortly after acquisition
25:37 – What we were able to do is just drive NOI tremendously
25:40 – revenues increased precipitously we were able to minimize some of the expense cost associated with the salaries of staff
25:45 – And what that ended up doing was driving up NOI in a material way
25:49 – Less than two years after we bought the business we ended up getting a BOV broker opinion of value of 28 million dollars
25:56 – And again, we were all in for 15.5 million dollars in that respective venture
26:00 – So within two years we almost doubled the value of that property just again less than three years after acquisition
26:07 – By virtue of us actually adding value
26:10 – It’s irrelevant. What everybody else is willing to pay in the marketplace
26:14 – In terms of the price appreciation etc. Price is what you pay value is what you get we focus on
26:20 – Increasing revenues minimizing expenses to ultimately create real value over long periods of time
26:26 – That’s one example of trying to add value shortly thereafter again
26:29 – This is the idea in the concept of sweat equity what we do in the real estate sector another example is in
26:34 – mobile home park sector so
26:36 – We ended up buying a mobile home park in Atlanta for 2.5 million dollars and literally within two years
26:41 – ended up selling it for 10.45 million dollars added an exorbitant amount of value in a relatively short period of time
26:47 – We more than quadrupled the value of the property within two years
26:51 – And we ended up exiting that deal with a multiple of 5.1 in an annualized return of over
26:57 – 144 percent a ridiculous number right this is a grand slam none of your deals like that right it was a deep
27:04 – Heavy value-add transaction the property had 125 spaces only 80 of them were occupied
27:09 – So it was a 65% occupancy we ended up acquiring the asset
27:12 – And it was a beautiful business model and that we were able to truly make a dent in affordable housing when we can go in to
27:18 – Community that’s going to be in high demand the area isn’t an affordable housing crisis
27:22 – We know that there’s a massive demand for the product
27:25 – But for whatever reason previous owner had not
27:28 – Improved the operational efficiency the way that
27:32 – That we’ve historically been able to do so we’ve been doing this now for well over a decade
27:36 – And we have a three-level framework in our manufactured housing communities our mobile home parks to drive value
27:42 – That three-level framework is very simple and straightforward
27:46 – We basically have we consider it low-hanging fruit mid-grade fruit and high-hanging fruit in the low-hanging fruit
27:52 – Scenario the first lever that we pull is recapturing lost to lease whenever we go into an individual deal
27:57 – We’re trying to find assets that ultimately have below market rents
28:00 – We know what the market can bear by virtue of doing all the underwriting in advance
28:03 – And we are looking specifically for assets to acquire where the market rent that they’re currently charging is significantly below
28:10 – The market rent in doing so we know that we can recapture that loss to lease over a period of time
28:15 – We consider that low-hanging fruit the second lever that we pull when we’re adding value is driving operational efficiency
28:23 – This is focusing on increasing revenues minimizing expenses largely this lever were focused on
28:29 – Driving operational efficiency and what we say is we’re billing back for water sewer trash
28:34 – Extremely common and virtually every other real estate sector
28:37 – But when we’re in the niche real estate sector of mobile home parks you buy deals from a lot of mom and pop operators that are not
28:43 – professional operators who really don’t
28:46 – Drive a cost down the way that most assuredly they can and I would say should over time truly for the betterment of the residents
28:53 – If the community is operating more efficiently the truth is you don’t have to charge as much you’re able to serve the residents better
28:58 – By virtue of billing back for water sewer trash not having a bunch of leakage all over the place
29:03 – And that drives operational efficiency creates value over long periods of time
29:07 – And the third lever that we end up pulling is the high-hanging fruit
29:09 – We consider that infill and that’s what we ended up doing here in this Atlanta mobile home park
29:14 – But basically infill is when you buy a mobile home park in this example there were a hundred and 25 spaces
29:20 – Only 80 of them were occupied. That means 45 spaces were available to infill with brand new
29:27 – Mobile homes brand new manufactured housing. This is a beautiful opportunity to do well financially while doing good socially
29:34 – We’re in an affordable housing crisis
29:36 – We have the ability at sunrise to flick ding make a dent in the affordable housing crisis
29:41 – I know that I can’t personally solve the affordable housing crisis
29:43 – But we’ll do everything in our power to make a dent
29:46 – So what we’re able to do is bring in a ton of homes
29:50 – Many many many homes to add more affordable housing stocks in the marketplace sell them to
29:55 – The end consumer the residents who ultimately are now able to live the American dream of home ownership
30:00 – They have a nicer place to live all the pre-existing residents
30:02 – They’d much prefer to be in a beautiful community with brand new homes as opposed to sitting around next to a bunch of vacant and abandoned lots
30:09 – It’s it improves the community
30:11 – It’s a much nicer place to live and we’re able to make a dent in the affordable housing crisis
30:16 – While driving significant returns for all the investors involved and that’s a virtuous cycle right?
30:22 – That’s the beautiful aspect associated with this business model
30:26 – The last deal I’ll talk about is mobile home park then we ended up acquiring in the northeast
30:30 – Beautiful asset. We ended up buying it for $2.6 million and we were able to pull all the various different levers in our
30:36 – Three-level framework to add value inside of this particular property
30:40 – We bought it for $2.6 million and it had woefully below market rents when we acquired the property
30:45 – It had brutal infrastructure. There were water leaks everywhere
30:49 – The sewer needed significant
30:52 – Work done in terms of catbacks. They need to get dumped back into the property
30:55 – There were abandoned homes skewn throughout the property
30:59 – There were some sell-vigible homes but several unsell-vigible homes and massive below market rents in this particular property
31:06 – When we acquired it the rents were $250 a month when the market was over $400 per month
31:13 – The legacy owner had developed the property literally 40 years ago since inception and had not
31:18 – Maximized the value of the property
31:20 – They had no debt on the asset. We’re throwing off tons of cash flow more than enough cash flow to live their life
31:26 – However, they wanted but and for that reason they were willing to choose
31:31 – Not to drive operational efficiency because they were able to live the life that they wanted and not burden the residents
31:37 – truly the owners grew up
31:39 – Instead of that community and they didn’t want to raise rents as it were on their neighbors
31:43 – But they weren’t providing the best service over time if you don’t dump money back into the property
31:48 – It ends up taking a beautiful what it’s a five-star manufactured housing community
31:53 – Turning into more of a four-star or three-star mobile home park
31:56 – And if you further degrade the community and don’t dump catbacks back into the property
32:00 – It becomes a two-star or one-star trailer park
32:02 – We went ahead and power washed all the homes
32:04 – We removed all the unsell-vigible homes
32:06 – We renovated all of the sell-vigible homes
32:09 – We ended up bringing in brand new homes into the units that were
32:13 – Bacon into the pads that were vacant
32:15 – Fixed all the deferred maintenance rejuvenated the septic fields
32:18 – We held a community cleanup day where everybody was able to throw out anything that was kind of lingering inside of the community
32:24 – Just refreshing it making a much much much nicer place to live
32:27 – And what we found over time is that folks are more than happy to pay a little bit more on a monthly basis
32:32 – For a significantly better living experience
32:34 – And so over the first couple of years of ownership of this asset
32:37 – We were able to recapture the lost lease move the lease from
32:39 – $200 on a monthly basis up to just below market rents
32:44 – So right around $400 which increased the revenues about 60% in the property
32:49 – In doing so within the first two years we took the cumulative value of the asset
32:53 – From $2.6 million up to over $6 million
32:57 – We were able to do a cash out refinance
32:59 – Send all the original capital back to investors in a non-taxable event
33:03 – And folks are then operating on an infinite cash on cash returned from that point forward
33:06 – But that exemplifies your ability to control your own destiny
33:10 – We knew in advance when going into that acquisition
33:13 – That we would have the ability to pull the first lever below market rents
33:16 – Pull the second lever operational inefficiency
33:19 – And pull the third lever bringing additional brand new units into the community via infill
33:23 – And by virtue of doing that we provided much better service to the end residents
33:28 – And were able to drive an exorbitant amount of value in the investment
33:31 – You have to find a way to not just rely exclusively on Mr. Market
33:35 – To determine the success of your investment
33:37 – But rather ensure that you can control your own destiny
33:40 – Because if your investment outcome depends on timing or luck
33:44 – Or optimism or hope you’re exposed
33:47 – But if you can add value patiently, systematically, relentlessly
33:52 – You control your own destiny
33:54 – And that’s why add value sits at the center of the sunrise capital strategy
33:59 – Not because it’s exciting, but because it works
